Except that hisec corporations are skittish about letting 'new players' join because of hisec awoxing: griefers such as my own space-tribe joining a corporation and then murderzoning the membership through a loophole in Concord enforcement - you can join a corp and attack anyone in your own corporation, even in hisec. Here's another sacred cow to slaughter: hisec awoxing is absolutely stupid from a business and retention perspective as it disincentivizes players from reaching out to genuine confused newbies.

Dave (edit: and Remedial) stop taking the bait. The guy is in Bastion, who's SRP comes from Mittens proverbial teat.

Plus, the title is about "greifers" not "griefers."

Same here.
But the big one is right- there are a whole bunch of game mechanics in EVE that are counter-intuitive for newbies and appear more like exploits or loopholes than actual game concepts.
And any game mechanic that disincentivizes players from actually playing the game (that is: socializing and pvp) is bad and should be removed.

Funny how many of you regulars on here have always called other posters risk-averse poons when they mention how AWOXing is absurd and dumb. I've seen how many threads on it where all the usual forum bros come in with their sly comments and tear the OP apart for thinkink AWOXing in high-sec is legal CONCORD evasion. Mittens mentions it and now watch as you sheep start actually considering the logic.

The NPE drives away WoW carebear types, and has worked just fine in steadily increasing subs for CCP as long as nullsec had variety and action. Now that subs are dropping like crazy from nullsec stagnation, lets ask the Blue Donut Master himself how to fix the game.

Quick question;

As none of us are in charge, and none of us are NPs

Why is our input on NPE relevant?

It's not, CCP gets ample feedback from real new players to work with.

It's worth poinintg out that, if the Goon-Lord and his merry band of Yes-Men really cared about new players and their experience, they could use their trillions in ISK assests to improve the new player experience themselves ... you know, like the real Goons of old used too, not work on Titan #300 and fine tune their content crushing BOTLORD agreements.

So now that the game has pretty much run out of actual noobs, they're considering to improve the NPE?

What will be next? They will improve PvE once the average mission runner would rather tear off his eyes than rescue the damsel for the thousandth time?

They already DID you mean.

In the vast sea of allies, and nothing happening there isn't much to spend your ISK on, is there.

Fixing in-corp awoxing does not need to go with making highsec safer: you could, for example, pair it with making corp-hopping to evade wardecs harder. But the fundamental problem is that EVE is a garbage game without other people most of the time, and highsec awoxing makes it just too difficult for good highsec corps to recruit new players. As a result, the only ones recruiting are the idiots who quickly get what's coming to them.

Is that your response to everything now?

Botting, or pretending to be a bot, doesn't count as playing the game.

'Vet' players still in noob corps only serve one purpose, to misinform new players.

Any new player would learn far more by just getting out of the kiddie pool.

If that were true, I'd actually see miners in npc corps. Its a rare sight for me.